Friday, December 20, 2013

The Torch

It's one of the biggest decisions so far and one I've spent a lot of time researching recently. What torch setup do I want? I decided to get an oxy-propane setup with an oxygen concentrator instead of bottled O2. This came after many hours of reading over forum threads on the positives and negatives of all the options. For some great info on oxy-propane for bike building, check out Doug Fattic's comments here. I like the idea of skipping the welding supply and bottle transport issues in favor of a BBQ propane tank and an oxycon. My biggest worry was actually the bottled O2. My shop is my garage and I use it for a lot more than just this bike project. That means it's going to be an environment that isn't strictly a welding shop. There's going to be car work, other projects, kids stuff, etc. I didn't like the idea of another compressed gas cylinder in my garage and compressed O2 doesn't play friendly with grease. With an oxycon, my biggest concern is it breaking down.


For the torch itself, I ordered the following:
  • Victor J-28 "aircraft" style body
  • Victor UN-J mixer
  • Victor 2-TEN tip
I read somewhere that I should be able to do almost anything with the #2 tip. I got all Victor hardware even tho cheaper "knockoffs" are available. There were a couple of reasons. Is a torch setup the place to buy cheap? And from what I've see on craigslist, used Victor stuff resells very well. I also ordered,
  • 10ft 3/16" T grade rubber hose with A-B fittings (torch has A, reg has B)
  • Propane regulator
  • Smith flashback arrestors
I went with the regular hoses of the lightweight ones most because I couldn't justify the price of the lightweight ones at this point (I bought the expensive torch instead). I figure if I start spending a ton of time on this I can justify the upgrade later. Also, I only installed the fuel flashback arrestor as the oxycon doesn't have enough O2 to pose much of a threat and I've read the arrestor can cut the output PSI down too far. Now I just need some rod and flux and I'm ready to try my hand at fillet brazing. It's been a good 10 years since I've used a torch, so it'll take some time to get my rhythm back.

2 comments:

  1. Dan,
    Thank you for laying-out details of your oxy-propane set-up. I'm currently thinking about running oxy-propane -- possibly with a concentrator. Now that you have a little experience with the J-28 and concentrator, can you give me/us your thoughts using a concentrator? The J-28? Thanks!

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    1. Sure! First the torch. I like it. I can't say I have any experience with other torches of this size, but compared to a standard torch the size is great. It's small and light, but feels very solid and we'll built. My only complaint is the valves feel "loose" in the cold making adjusting a neutral flame more challenging. After a few minutes running and they warm up, they are back to normal. Also the victor TEN tips are great. I have zero issues keeping the flame attached. You need to step up (more propane then more oxygen) a couple times to get the largest flame for the tip, but after a few lights it becomes second nature. Oh, and I run my propane at 6-7 psi.

      As for the concentrator, I'm happy with it. My little 5 lpm unit is plenty so far. I might get up to 3 lpm tops with a size 2 tip. I run at the stock output pressure. Not sure what that is. My only issue is mine is loud and takes forever to warm up in the cold. Moved it into my basement connected by 50 ft of vinyl tubing running to the torch hose solves both problems. It's nice to know that the only thing I can run out of on the weekend is propane and that's only 1 mi away at my local grocery store.

      Hope that helps. Feel free to contact me with any other questions.

      -Dan

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